# App Keeps Stopping Errors (Multiple Apps)

**URL:** <https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517>\
**Category:** iodéOS\
**Tags:** app-error, iodeos, faq, bug\
**Created:** [September 20, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517 "2025-09-20T20:56:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/mycenius/32/181_2.png) [@Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/u/Mycenius)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/1 "2025-09-20T20:56:21Z")

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Last 24 hours I’ve noticed getting App Keeps Stopping errors that’s gradually spread from a few apps to virtually anything I try and use on phone. It may have started earlier than yesterday I hadn’t noticed. I have done a restart to no avail.

Key changes I’ve made since yesterday morning is to install the following:

- **Shelter** (plus MS Outlook & Teams in Shelter, and clone a couple of other apps into it)
- **Fossify** Apps (several Phone, Messages, Contacts, Keyboard, Gallery & File Manager)
- **Save Locally**

Couldn’t recall and threads specifically discussing this and I’ve done some initial searches of the forum also but couldn’t find any references. I’ll have a search on the iodéOS forum too, but if anyone has any experience or guidance much appreciated.

In the interim I will try removing Shelter and Work Profile stuff just in case that’s the cause and I’ve somehow installed it wrong…

P.S. It’s not the issue described in this post:

> [@Crashing apps and restarts](https://community.braxtech.net/t/crashing-apps-and-restarts/2479):
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> I’d like to stop using my old de-Googled Pixel 7 with CalyxOS in favor of my new BraX3, but I can’t yet due to stability issues. Apps crash constantly, including several that are critical for basic messaging and productivity (Signal, MySudo, Proton, etc.), and the phone pretty frequently crashes entirely and drops to an iodéOS splash screen or fully restarts. So far I haven’t noticed any kind of pattern to any of this, other than it’s fairly constant, so unfortunately my BraX3 is currently unusa…

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**Author:** ![romluk](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/romluk/32/505_2.png) [@romluk](https://community.braxtech.net/u/romluk)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/2 "2025-09-20T22:00:32Z")

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@Mycenius  
I’m using Fossify apps and Save locally without any problems.  
Maybe its a conflict with Shelter?  
My other thought is if you are using Fossify apps, Are you disabling or removing the original app so there isn’t a conflict?

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**Author:** ![Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/mycenius/32/181_2.png) [@Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/u/Mycenius)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/3 "2025-09-20T22:35:07Z")

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> [@romluk](#):
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> I’m using Fossify apps and Save locally without any problems.  
> Maybe its a conflict with Shelter?

Cheers - yes I’m thinking that way - just about to remove it and see what happens. Was just searching the _iodé forums_…

> [@romluk](#):
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> My other thought is if you are using Fossify apps, Are you disabling or removing the original app so there isn’t a conflict?

Yes I have - for all of them except `gallery` - by the time I loaded that this morning the settings app was stopping so I can’t get to the default apps to remove the default gallery app… (I also noticed when you do remove a default app it suggests it just hides it and doesn’t actually remove it, so if a conflict is an issue - albeit I’d suspect highly unlikely - it could be because of that).

EDIT: I just tested pretty much all the `Fossify` apps @romluk and all are working and don’t have the app stopping error. So definitely not a conflict there so will remove `Shelter` and see what happens.

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**Author:** ![romluk](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/romluk/32/505_2.png) [@romluk](https://community.braxtech.net/u/romluk)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/4 "2025-09-20T23:26:38Z")

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@Mycenius  
Cool. Please keep me posted. I’m curious to know what is causing that issue.

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**Author:** ![Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/mycenius/32/181_2.png) [@Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/u/Mycenius)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/5 "2025-09-21T01:22:32Z")

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> [@Mycenius](#):
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> Last 24 hours I’ve noticed getting App Keeps Stopping errors that’s gradually spread from a few apps to virtually anything I try and use on phone. It may have started earlier than yesterday I hadn’t noticed. I have done a restart to no avail.

> [@Mycenius](#):
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> I just tested pretty much all the `Fossify` apps @romluk and all are working and don’t have the app stopping error. So definitely not a conflict there so will remove `Shelter` and see what happens.

So - it’s the _auto-freeze_ function in `Shelter` I believe. If I apply it to any cloned apps in the **Work Profile** then (for some default or system type apps) it causes the original copy of that same app in the **Main Profile** to stop when you try and open it. It looks like it was just the apps I had cloned (or installed a second copy of in the **Work Profile** from cloned app store) that were affected that had that setting. So I have removed it from them and they work fine in the **Main Profile** once they aren’t frozen in `Shelter`.

But I am still testing to see if any other apps are still affected, but principally it is these apps affected I’ve identified so far:

- Aurora Store (_default app_)
- Settings (_default app_)
- Files (_default app_)
- Contacts (_default app_)
- Fossify Contacts

So currently I only have auto-freeze enabled for the following:

- Iodé Browser
- Microsoft Outlook
- Microsoft Teams

Note: `Iodé Browser` is unaffected by the auto-freeze, it works fine in **Main Profile** while frozen in `Shelter` **Work Profile**.

Will test a bit more and possibly fully uninstall Shelter and reinstall; after checking [Shelter site for more docs/instructions](https://lists.sr.ht/~petercxy/shelter) that may relate to the issue - in case it’s a known scenario.

P.P.S. Another odd thing with `Shelter` was that although I had removed the `Contacts` default app before I installed shelter and set up profile (I had replaced it with the Fossify one), it included it by default in the **Work Profile** when it created it and I can’t seem to subsequently remove it (as you can’t access _Settings \> Pre-installed Apps_ in the `Settings App` clone in `Shelter`). So reinforces my impression that:

> [@Mycenius](#):
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> …when you do remove a default app it suggests it just hides it and doesn’t actually remove it

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**Author:** ![pizzalinux1](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/pizzalinux1/32/1069_2.png) [@pizzalinux1](https://community.braxtech.net/u/pizzalinux1)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/6 "2025-09-21T01:50:47Z")

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I am also following this one.

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**Author:** ![plamen](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/plamen/32/17_2.png) [@plamen](https://community.braxtech.net/u/plamen)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 9:49am UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/7 "2025-09-22T09:49:25Z")

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Interesting find. I will take a note and report that as a bug.  
Interesting to know if the shelter app behaves differently on lineageOS/iodeOS running on a different device.

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**Author:** ![werewolf8](https://community.braxtech.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@werewolf8](https://community.braxtech.net/u/werewolf8)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/8 "2025-09-22T17:54:12Z")

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I had the same problem a APP would not work when i put my simcaard in from a different cellphone?

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**Author:** ![Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/mycenius/32/181_2.png) [@Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/u/Mycenius)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 4:04am UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/9 "2025-09-23T04:04:58Z")

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> [@plamen](#):
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> I will take a note and report that as a bug.  
> Interesting to know if the shelter app behaves differently on lineageOS/iodeOS running on a different device.

It is possible it’s not `Shelter` that was the cause - and it’s something else (or transient) - `Settings` in my main profile now keeps giving the same error when I try to enable TTS (after I select the TTS Engine in the options, it shows ‘system language’ but doesn’t seem enabled, if I try and go in and change it to the alternative of “English” the app crashes with the same _App Keeps Stopping_ error as previous. However Settings cloned into Shelter is not frozen at the time so its not the same as previous instances.

 ![Screenshot_20250923-154903_Settings_1](https://community.braxtech.net/uploads/default/original/1X/192a039114fc1e208a25995fc7c25576955cd903.png)

FYI - I’ve been having trouble trying to get TTS to work with both OsmAnd and Organic Maps, and I’m trying with both SherpaTTS and RHVoice and same issue. So don’t know if that’s related - or it’s some sort of permissions issue - they kept reporting unable to start text to speech - but now, since I’ve started having above error with the settings TTS options, suddenly SherpaTTS is working with both map apps…

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**Author:** ![Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/user_avatar/community.braxtech.net/mycenius/32/181_2.png) [@Mycenius](https://community.braxtech.net/u/Mycenius)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 4:22am UTC](https://community.braxtech.net/t/app-keeps-stopping-errors-multiple-apps/2517/10 "2025-09-23T04:22:37Z")

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P.S. After a couple more reboots the issue seems to have gone away again and the TTS with maps is working fine…

EDIT: …for the TTS issue in post above. But reboots didn’t previously solve the original Shelter related issue posted earlier. I will retest that issue again in a few days.
