Setting Default SIM for each Contact / Choosing Outgoing SIM (Fossify)

Hi All,

Has anyone been able to (with Fossify Contacts and Fossify Phone) and using dual-SIMs? Have I missed something incredibly obvious:

  1. actually select a SIM to dial out on from the dialler pad?

  2. Get Fossify to Save the preferred SIM for any particular contact,

  3. Find any way to actually view what SIM is saved (if any) for a particular contact?

Yet another dual-SIM basic functionality feature that seems to be missing and that’s doing my head in! I have read a few threads elsewhere (see a couple linked below) such as Fossify GitHub and GrapheneOS community, and these imply it partially had some of these functions and people were complaining so they recently removed some - WTF?

My understanding is when the dial confirmation box comes up (if you have it enabled) you can long press and a pop up gives you the choice of which SIM to dial out on - well in 4 weeks of use with multiple calls a day this has worked exactly once for me - so that’s about a 1% success rate - and that was about the second or third day of use in 4 weeks.

It also does not work at all on the dialer pad - if I understand correctly they actively removed the option to dial from a different SIM; so you are forced to dial out on your default SIM (supposedly - TBH I don’t trust this and suspect it’s just SIM 1 regardless) and there is no other way to choose which SIM if you type in a number and dial (rather than use a contact)?
:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

In my case 80% of my calls are personal so the default SIM is my personal one. 20% are work calls and half of these are just calling numbers, not contacts. So to do that I have type in the number, call on the default line, which is my personal line, immediately hang up, then go to call history, then long press the entry (or the 3 dot menu at side), then pick SIM 2 from the pop-up, to then call on my work SIM… (meanwhile having disclosed my personal number in the missed calls on the other persons phone)…

Alternately I have to go through the rigmarole of creating an unwanted contact for a one-off call, then long press the contact (or the 3 dot menu), then pick SIM 2 from the pop-up, to then call on work SIM, then go back to the contact and delete it after the call…
:roll_eyes:

What’s more even when you do the long press the contact (or the 3 dot menu), then pick SIM you want from the pop-up for an existing Contact it doesn’t save that setting nor give you anyway to manage it. So that’s a WTF, again…

Please tell me I’m completely missing something? Or tell me there’s a better pair of apps for functionality to use for calls than the Fossify ones? I’m using these because they were reported better by early users than the default Telephone and AOSP Contacts apps.

Note: The Fossify Messages app works okay because you can at least see the SIM in the interface and tap it to change it at will (even if you can’t seem to save it as default for that contact and there is no way to verify that if it is). And you can customise conversation to at least set a custom notification tone, etc, for that contact (which you can’t seem to do in contacts - again it seems Fossify had it then for some bizarre reason removed the functionality).

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Hey @Mycenius
Settings > Network & Internet > SIMs > Scroll down to primary SIMs > Click on Calls > Select Ask every time.
After doing this, when you make a call, a box like the one shown below should pop up, allowing you to select a number for just that call, or assign a number to that contact.

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Thanks! I recall seeing that now somewhere, thought I had it on but just checked and obviously didn’t!

P.S. Do you know if you can see this setting once you set it permanently (e.g. always use this SIM), in the contact details?

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Just a couple things I found while testing.
If I assign sim 2 to a contact and I make a call, it shows the sim 2 icon (line 2) being used on the dial screen.
The sim setting assigned to that number does not show up in the contact info ***(*At least, I haven’t found it) :man_shrugging: but if you have missed calls from one or both numbers in your recent call list, it will show each SIM number (1 or 2) under the missed number in a different color, so you know which line that call came from.
I can’t find a way to assign different ringtones for each SIM directly, (Did you have any luck with that?) so I just edited each work contact and assigned it its own ringtone. Now at least all work contacts have the same ringtone and the personal line has a different ringtone.

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No - no joy with that this end, so I was going to do exactly as you have once I sorted the outbound calls!

P.S. I have 751 contacts, of which 85 are work ones I manually imported to Contacts app, and tagged in Work Contacts group - so that (what you did) seemed easiest work around once I knew I could fully control which sim used for outgoing calls…

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Yep - that’s a big issue IMO. I found reference to it in some Fossify threads with some implication its deemed not a function of contacts app but of the phone app - so not functionality provided in Contacts!
:thinking: :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :roll_eyes: :man_shrugging:

If true what are they thinking?? Makes me think of Chris Titus’s videos and his “Linux Neck-Beards” somewhat tongue-in-cheek comments whenever he finds some illogical functionality or bizarre non-UX-friendly behaviour; or on Linux forums and such extreme ‘geeks only’ and/or non user friendly attitudes…

That’s good and will help to some degree…
:+1:

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lol.. :laughing: Agreed.

Just an FYI.. When I tested this using the default phone app, the missed call would show the whole SIM name, not just 1 or 2. So, I renamed the SIMs. That worked really well, but then I noticed that when you make a call the pop up menu above didn’t give me the option to always use this SIM with a contact which made no bloody sense. :enraged_face:
So, I decided Fossify Phone was the better option.

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Nice - as it should be.

I hate having to hark back to iOS but that’s had this functionality for a decade (or more) - ever since dual sims was a thing… Android fan boys who bag iOS just have no comprehension of how much more advanced band superior UX it is… at least for the non-neck beards who make up 99.999% of the population!
:roll_eyes:

Sigh…

:smirking_face: :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :confounded_face:

And that seems to be Android, and especially FOSS android, in a nutshell…

Not that I don’t appreciate or value the efforts developers do, and often unpaid, but too often there are bizarre weird choices or unnecessary functions when the most basic commonsense ones that are used everyday are missing…

It seems everything is an unneccesary compromise in FOSS android world.

Not that I’m nor having a positive experience, overall BraX3 journey has been very good - with iodéOS Android most of the big things haven’t been that hard (except Android Auto that’s a complete load of Vogon Poetry) - but there’s a handful of small niggly things you use multiple rimes everyday that are infuriating at times - how can that functionality nor be there?

I agree. It’s the simple things in life that make us happy.

Ahh yes… Vogon Poetry … What could be worse except being lost on Vogsphere or…Trying to get Android Auto to work with the Brax3. lol…

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Are you talking about me? What!


Me Worry?

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