You can use iCloud/IOS Contacts app to export them in VCF format - just transfer that file to your BraX3 then use import in the contacts app. I’m currently using Fossify Contacts. That’s the quick basic solution.
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I switched from iPhone to Brax3 after over ten years using iPhoneSE (both their first and second model of SE). It does come with a learning curve, and I kept my old iPhone just in case I needed to switch back. However, since we now have access to browser-based AI chat bots, I’ve been using them as tech support for troubleshooting issues, and that has largely gotten me over the hump. Leo AI in the Brave browser is good for this. So is ChatGPT or Deepseek in a browser window. Anything you have trouble with, ask the bots and it usually helps you out.
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Yes, absolutely - one of the few things they are pretty reliable for as they are collating consistent instructional data…
This is also a great way to ease transitioning to Linux too, from Windows or macOS on your PC or laptop/macbook. Just get a good solid vanilla Linux distro as the start and you can pretty much figure out anything you need for day to day use using AI.
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I have Fossify Contacts app loaded, yet don’t have an icon on my screen for it. Regardless, I am trying to get the .vcf file to my Brax3. I’m connected via bluetooth and can’t send a file to the phone. NextCloud is now on my phone, don’t have an icon on my screen for it, more importantly still can’t transfer the .vcf file. Can’t air drop it. Brax3 won’t just connect via cord to my Mac. Do I have to load email on this phone? I didn’t want to do that. Instructions look as if it will take 30 minutes to get firefox loaded. Is Brave a possibility as a browser? This is nightmarish for me.
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@Barbra most apps don’t put a shortcut on the home screen by default. Swipe up in the middle of your screen and you will see the full library of installed apps (same as on iPhone when you swipe all the way to the right).
Once there, just press and hold then drag the app icon you want, to pull a shortcut across to the homescreen.
When you connect your phone to USB you need to allow file transfer permissions. Once USB is connected, on the phone, go to Settings > Connected Devices > USB and make sure File Transfer is selected under ‘use USB for’.
You need to do this every time you connect the USB with a computer or storage device and want to do something other than charging.
(There are a couple of shortcut ways to get to that menu, but that’s the official way - it usually will not show if the USB isn’t already connected to the phone and computer).
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So I meant to write another post stepping through some of my current phone config choices and other considerations last weekend, but real life got in the way. Anyway here’s a summary of how my phone is currently laid out, including profiles and ‘sandboxing’ (as far as that’s the appropriate term).
Main (Default) Profile
This has my personal everyday apps - but these are all FOSS ones and/or ones I trust, and/or that don’t send any data off the device. Where appropriate they still have permissions and network access restricted, and are normally are at reinforced blocking (even though trusted) in the iodé app… I do not install less trust worthy apps here…
Examples are: Phone, Contacts & SMS apps (Fossify); encrypted Messaging (Molly); Web Browsers (2)¹; password manager; email (e.g. such as Proton or similar for encrypted email and/or Thunderbird for other email); cloud drive (if private - not big tech); VPN; FOSS maps; local (non-streaming) music; health app for smart watch (GadgetBridge), trusted community apps (e.g. Mastodon or Discourse)², and of course the system apps like file manager, iodé, etc…
¹ I have a minimum of two web browsers installed (sometimes 3) because I don’t use my default browser for my main browsing. On my phone I use the iodé browser (Firefox) as my default , so any links I click on in emails or elsewhere open in this, or any random one-off links I need to copy and paste into the browser are done in this.
I then have Brave browser installed as my actual primary browser, but not set as default. I do all my ‘important’ browsing in Brave for accounts I log into, such as sites or forums I access regularly each day, and so on. Both browsers are configured to maximise anonymity and clear some or all of their caches regularly, etc.
Doing this helps further prevent fingerprinting, so those random one-off links I go to see a completely different browser profile to what the regular sites I visit regularly see, and they never see a fingerprint that matches what I use on the sites I log into.
As an aside on my Linux PC I replace Firefox (iodé) with Mullvad browser for my default; for those ad hoc sites (as it has excellent anti-fingerprinting functionality), but I still use Brave for my regular day-to-day browsing.
² This is a bit of a subjective choice and I am regularly going back to revisit if its appropriate to have certain apps in this main profile - if necessary I uninstall them and reinstall into the next profile (see below). Typically they are only here because of being trusted regarding tracking and/or for ease of access (typically if I need notifications) - if either isn’t the case or required then they get moved. Currently I only have 3 apps of this type here.
Work Profile (with Shelter)
So the next profile is the work profile, but I don’t use it for work. As it is my own personal phone and my employer’s IT department don’t have access to it, and I only need 2 basic apps on it for my job, and they are both apps from the same big tech (i.e. Microsoft) I can put them somewhere else - see later.
Instead I use this area for all my untrusted apps; and the less desirable apps that I have to have access to. Shelter is installed and all apps are installed through Shelter by cloning Aurora and F-Droid into the Work Profile and using the cloned stores to install… This then means these are separated from the main profile above (nominally sand-boxed, although that’s probably a term not used completely correctly for phones), and can be easily ‘frozen’ (stopped and isolated) at any time.
These have all permissions and network access restricted wherever possible (only the minimum is granted), and they are always at reinforced blocking in the iodé app incl. extra customised network restrictions where appropriate… They are all kept frozen at all times except when used, but don’t freeze the systems apps, browser or the cloned stores in the profile - as it will cause you issues - just auto freeze the untrusted apps.
Examples are: household utilities (heating, solar power, irrigation, security, networking & network devices, etc), Amazon, EBay³, and similar; plus a cloned copy of iodé browser to provide a web browser inside the work profile for those apps if needed.
³ As of time of writing, as an aside, still haven’t been able to get this to work with reasonable restrictions on it… still trying to determine how much access you need to grant it for it to function 100%. I’m not convinced by Rob’s previous comments in a video that EBay and Amazon apps are fairly innocuous and safe to use; as when it comes to the EBay app at least it has an apparent need for open access.
Private Space
So I have repurposed Private Space to use as my surrogate ‘Work Profile’ - unlike Shelter in the Work Profile above you can’t freeze and unfreeze individual apps here. It’s all or nothing - everything frozen and locked down or everything unfrozen.
However the reason this works for me is that I only have 3 apps in this ‘profile’; and the 2 of them that are my work ones are both Microsoft (i.e. Outlook & Teams) - so it doesn’t matter if one or both are unlocked, they are both going to phone home to the same place when they are. I nearly always have this space locked down, and for work only unlock it if I need to do something, or if I know there’s likely to be comms I need to respond to. As I have my work phone number on the phone I can always be contacted via phone or SMS in actual emergencies, etc, by the business.
The other app I have in here is my personal banking app - which is more what the Private Space is designed for (so you can hide these types of apps and have an extra layer of security). At this stage I consider the risk from the 2 work apps and the banking app being both here together and the ‘evil M corporate’ work apps able to run background processes at the same time I may have my banking app active, etc, minimal. But I do need to research this further - so if you are concerned by it don’t do this on your device!
The 2 Microsoft apps have all permissions and network access restricted wherever possible (only the minimum is granted for them to work), they are never allowed location access, and they are always at reinforced blocking in the iodé app. The banking app is obviously configured as needed for it to work appropriately.
Permissions
Make sure in all cases you lock down permissions and network (internet) access - e.g. hardly any apps need to access Bluetooth (in normal circumstances), and if you will never allow an app to use mobile data and only work on Wi-Fi (e.g. due to data volumes) you can lock down mobile data access for that app too. Basically if unsure experiment with locking down everything and see what the app bleats about and asks for… You can slowly give it back permission for 1 thing at a time from that list, starting with the most obvious thing, until it starts working normally. And you may not need to give it back access to many of the items for it to work.
Notifications
These are particularly insidious, I normally turn off all notifications where possible, especially push ones - and rely on checking the app at my convenience if needed. There’s only a few items you genuinely need notifications for, and enabling them compromises a whole heap of privacy. See the excellent primer posted by @romluk below:
Sandboxing and Shelter App
For more on this see this thread - its not a perfect solution but its what we have at present:
Alternative App List
And finally, as an alternative to my post at the start of this thread, see the alternate list of apps below, again posted by @romluk :
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Wow! That’s a lot of research, planning and persistence, just so Zuck, ZOOMdar and Cookster stay out of your business each day. Technocreeps! Good job protecting your privacy.
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Just a brief update - I’m not sure if I already linked to the Health Apps thread, so just adding this for future reference for anyone reading this who is interested in health apps and/or using a smart watch or fitness tracker with the BraX3 (FWIW I’m now using a Garmin Venu 3 since getting my BraX3):
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Just linking in this thread about setting default sims for outgoing calls for contacts as don’t think I have included this as yet…
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Just found this post for iphone users, and you mentioned X, which im having trouble with. My new Brax3 wont let me log in, as well as Strava, my sports app. My log in and PW’s are correct as they allow me entry via my iPhone. Do you have any ideas, help, as to why i’m having trouble logging in?
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They are both rather nefarious apps, I dont use either although I have in the past.
The issues will be one of the following:
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Just transient and keep retrying or wait until next app update, similar to the Aurora Srore intermittent issues, or
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They don’t like not having full access to your device, so you’d have to try removing restrictions in the iodé (firewall) app - although not reccommended, or similar permissions issues in iodéOS settings, or
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They are looking for the additional Google “security” (I use that word loosely) functions present in stock Android. If so they won’t run regardless. But pretty sure some people use X here…
But in conclusion FWIW my opinion is you shouldn’t have them on a privacy focussed device anyway, as its counter productive; given the amount of tracking and data collection they do - and neither organisation is very trustworthy nor can be trusted to be very competent around data security…
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Sorry for the delay, but thank you.
I was able to log into Strava, the normal “log on” steps work. I try to minimize the use of it as i only run it when cycling or running.
Also the explanation of why they were glitchy, and the google intrusions makes sense.
X still not logging in as it normally should, using on my laptop but very inconvenient.
I’ve gotten a Garmin to track my sports activities and metrics, so the Strava app on the phone will probably deleted.
Thanks again
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Are you logging onto X using the Micro g app? Asking as I have been curious about this. It seems as tho if I used that app I could use X without the tracking?
thanks for asking DeeS.
Ive tried to log into X two ways, firstly via the downloaded app via Aurora, i can’t log into the app that way. Secondly, i log in via the Iode browser, when i do that, i can get in without issue. I’ll try working it with Micro G and see what happens and report back.
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MicroG as you know is preinstalled on the Brax3. That being said, its in the App library but i can’t figure out how to put it on the home screen, and Ive linked my gmail to it in the “MicroG settings”, against Braxmans advice not to, if only for short moments.
So, no joy. But, im able to log into X via the Iode browser and use it without issue
The X app, appears in Aurora, but now i’m having trouble fetching it and downloading it the app to the phone. The little Aurora icon just spins and spins on the white screen. Im wondering if its an issue with MicroG and Google.
Let me know if you have better results.
That’s because you don’t use it like that. MicroG is emulating Google services in the background (with as much privacy/obfuscation as possible), its not an app you actively use.
It’s not a matter of ‘only for short moments’. Once you have linked it, you have linked it; i.e. you’ve broken the privacy chain and basically let the genie out of the bottle.
Google will have your phone ID and other data they harvested off it (like installed apps, device config, user profile info) linked to your G profile. Anything you do with your phone, no matter how anonymous they can now link to you just by knowing things like the phone IMEI or similar in the “anonymous” data. You don’t ever have to log into your G account again for that, they will still be harvesting data on you now despite your ’privacy’ phone because its been directly associated with the existing data & account they have for/on you.
There’s a good reason Rob tells you to never log into Google (or similar) accounts on the device.
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Damn, so basically i stepped in a pile of shit by logging in with my gmail. Anyway to undo it, for example, a reset?
How did u login? I think it would be ok from the iode’ web browser but not from the gmail app.
BTW, Google reads your emails with them. They kicked me off their Google Voice system years ago with no warning or explanation other than I was texting hate speech to my fellow church members. They were admitting to reading my text messages! I moved my email over to an encrypted mail system. I recommend this as an alternative:
Nope. Not really. Reset will only provide minimal benefit and even then you’d need to do other stuff (like load different apps on phone) to achieve even that. And then assuming as Lazarus asked you did it (logged in) in protected browser like iodé or Brave.
Ideal fix is either change the IMEI number permanently (by spoofing^ another device’s IMEI that’s not in use and that you have never used in the past), or get a brand new device… (and then start again and don’t log into Google, Meta, X, Microsoft, Samsung, etc, on ypur device).
Otherwise you need to just develop a strategy to minimise what you have on phone, what you do on it, and where you take it and have it turned on, etc, until you have reason to change/replace it.
The same is true, although slightly less significant, with bringing over existing SIM & Number from an old non-private device; that then links your new device to existing data thats been collected (again because cell number is alteady linked to you and may be linked to your new IMEI (e.g. via your cell network provider).
^ There are instructions elsewhere on this forum how to do this by flashing device to a different O/S and changing IMEI then flashing it back to iodéOS.
Lazarus, i input my gmail info via MicroG settings, but i didnt log into any gmail apps directly. I did that in an effort to get a working download of the X app, still not working.
Even after downloaded X App via Aurora and APK pure, and the App still not working.
After that, i deleted the email credentials from MicroG again, so my info isnt there now.
Thanks for the email alternative, i have a friend that said Hotmail did the same thing to him as well.